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Subject: HMOs

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dminkin
Posts:26

06 Jan 2007 07:02:16 Alert 
I'm glad you do get benefits from your accreditation.This is exactly what annoys me.Still we get different rules for different authorities.The licensing was supposed to sort this out.
I received totally free cavity wall insulation and a mountain of energy light bulbs for 4 of my properties recently. This was due to my being a member of the NLA.
What have you received from being accredited? I've received nothing but avoidance of inspections.I don't agree with avoidance of inspections just because I say I am a good landlord.
Why should they trust me?
Its like saying to an MOT tester,if you say you are a good tester we won't inspect you.You are now accredited.
I saved money on my license fees by being accredited.Thats why I finally signed up to it.
dminkin
Posts:26

08 Jan 2007 13:22:12 Alert 
I quote from a conservative minister:
03/10/06
Conservatives called for an end to over regulation of the private rented sector which is contributing to an affordable housing supply shortage.
Backed by British property federation,shadow housing minister Michael Gove said private rented sector had key part to play in tackling housing supply shortages.
Bureaucratic burdens on Landlords act as a disincentive to enter the market.
They are vital to labour mobility which in turn was crucial to the growth of the economy.
Ian Fletcher of the BPF said different government departments give conflicting signals about government intentions.
At last an MP who I agree with.
sheriff fatman
Posts:5

17 Jan 2007 08:21:11 Alert 
I think Mr johnson is a civil servant in disguise. Our council hasn't trained any inspectors and is thoroughly underprepared yet has allegedly already started fining people on hearsay due to being in need of cash to prop up their other doomed proposals. I also know of a very rogue landlord, linked to the ira amongst others and with a penchant for threatening old ladies and little girls with eviction when he needs to raise the rents, and he has been lauded by the council for sponsoring council events. ie greasy palms work in local govt but being responsible will not save you from the fine.
the charges in our area are very high due to the amount of 'yuppies' etc as is the demand for student housing which is the main victim of the proposed licences. As has been previously stated, the rules are different all over the country and the hmo rules were invented to stop immigrants packing houses, not for any other reason. the govt just needs cash and if the associations can get a large amount of landlords behind them to pressure some reality into policy then I am all for them. Landlords assocs often have codes of conduct and this is the reason many people dont join-because they know they are bound by them.
The rogue landlord I mentioned before has been refused admittance to the rla and naea due to his behaviour but he is a 'beacon' landlord to the council. go figure.
Local govt doesn't have a clue about the industry and has never consulted me though i have frequently put my name down to assist. the assocs have always taken my opinions on board and offered assistance. The council has just asked for cash.
don't believe the hype and don't stop fighting the governmental bullsh*t.
dminkin
Posts:26

17 Jan 2007 14:19:19 Alert 
At last, someone who's singing from the same hymn sheet as me.I can't agree with you more Sheriff.
misternick
Posts:4

24 Feb 2007 09:50:17 Alert 
I have four storey victorian houses, which at one time had up to 7 bedrooms.I think I am a good landlord, and my tenants stay a long time with me.Rather than get involved with licensing of HMOs we decided to split these houses into 1 and 2 bedroom flats, with planning permission and building regs.As long as I keep the number of residents per flat to under 3, the council cant touch me.
This HMO legislation was operation overkill.It has not been demonstrated that one life per year would be saved by its implementation.This is about job creation in the carpeted centrally heated town hall offices. There are plenty of bad landlords taking risks by over occupying old houses, but lets face it the ******mental health department will never keep up with them,they will go for the easy targets who have been looking after their tenants well for years, and so well known.
Its been years of hard work , but knowing local councils from both sides it will have been worth it... til they move the goal posts again in another burst of empire building.
Ask yourself a question.. Of the last few house fires in your town, how many were in private housing and in how many was the council the landlord??
Johnson
Posts:23

26 Feb 2007 05:15:27 Alert 
Just to set the record straight Sherrif Fatman, I'm not employed by the council, or anyone else. We all know rogue landlords but do we do anything about it other than moan to each other? I've never known a landlord admit that they are a rogue landlord either!!!

Like you I bemoan the fact that councils are adopting differing standards, and as also been mentioned they will go after the easy targets first, much like the CSA did. But that doesn't alter the basic fact that this industry does need regulation, it obviously cannot regulate itself. There are real issues about how effective, or not, the landlords associations are, in my opinion they are largely useless, others will have differing views and that's fair enough.

What this industry needs is a set of legislation that is clear and is policed properly. Then we stand a chance of getting rid of the sort of landlord Sherriff Fatman describes. Regulation is the only way to achieve this and the only way to ensure that both councils and landlords do their jobs correctly and without favour. I don't want legislation but I don't want this industry to continue to suffer from the excesses of a few landlords who shouldn't be allowed to run kennels let alone houses where people live.
cosmo
Posts:1

06 Apr 2007 12:46:23 Alert 
hi fellow landlords, i'm the new boy. cosmo.
just glanced over your concerns about 'washhand basins' and you all seem to be missing the point. as some of you already pointed out , probably without realising, GOVERNMENT GUIDELINES are just that. it is not mandatory.
at a recent council meeting in our area, the local fire chief turned up to advise us unsuspecting landlords that we should have sprinkler systems installed in all houses. I asked , 'just out of curiosity, is this part of the new legislation'. the fireman said 'no, but it is law in america'.
' so how does that effect us over here 3000 miles away?'
' it dosn't, but it is safer'. this is the level of contempt our officials treat us. they are using fear to control us and by limiting the information, by law should be totally available to all, keeps us running like headless chickens. thats why we are unable to fight back. we still do not know the whole story, so we do not what to fight.
I HAVE NO INTENTION OF ARGUING WITH A BUNCH OF BABOONS.
IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST AND BE HEARD, MOVE OVERSEAS SELL YOUR PROPERTIES AND LETS MAKE 2 MILLION PEOPLE HOMELESS.
THE COUNCIL CAN , IF THEY SO WISH , FIT SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, WASHHAND BASINS AND ANY OTHER STUPID IDEA THEY COME UP WITH. it happened in the 70s . insane legislation wiped out the private landlord. and the DONKEY , my pet name for prescot , has done it again. landlords will become an endangered species.
Honicombe
Posts:2

10 Apr 2007 06:55:51 Alert 
I am afraid that the HMO legislation will touch you. The HHSRS section applies to ALL properties not just licensed ones. For example also Nottingham City council are planning to apply to licence all properties in 12 months time.You may find that your council decides to do the same.
Honicombe
Posts:2

10 Apr 2007 07:01:34 Alert 
Wash Hand Basins. On this issue, it is a legal requirement. I have a licence and have been asked to put in 5 wash hand basins as part of my licence conditions. The house has 3 washhand basins already, 4 showers and two toilets. All for 5 students. They are saying one has 4 years to do the work.There is a review in 3 years.If no-one complains now the rule will stay. www.empo.co.uk is going to lead a launch of a national campaign on this and hope to get a petition on the pm website. Please check that web site for news,
dminkin
Posts:26

20 Jun 2007 17:48:19 Alert 
Great news.Will keep my ears and eyes open.Nobody from my council can come up with a valid reason for these wash hand basins.
I've also just been told to put a basin in a cloakroom in a bedsit house.There is a bathroom next door with a basin in.The reason being hygiene.The door handle can be touched before they can wash their hands!I am appealing because literally there is no room to put the tiniest of basins in there.
It did make me think though about public toilets.Will they be putting in basins within every cubicle as we daren't touch the handle when trying to get out! Perhaps we should climb underneath.
dminkin
Posts:26

01 Aug 2007 16:14:55 Alert 
HOORAY!! ARE YOU THERE JOHNSON. Due to much lobbying by the NLA(That waste of time Landlords association according to Johnson), the government has done a U turn.From October 1st wash hand basin requirement is scrapped.!! I can now let my 5th bedroom instead of leaving it empty.
But what about the poor landlords who have already installed them at great expense? Do they get compensation? i think not.
Well done the NLA.
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